coyote hunting with hounds in my area

[Bigcat]

The way they run they have to have gps locators on them in case they get too far. In your first post you said you knew where they would end up. I'm sure the owners that do it all the time also have a good idea. But I'm sure they have to track them down sometimes. I know some coon hunters that have gps on there dogs. But yeah if they do it wrong then they should be fined but nothing I have heard you say tells me they do it wrong. All I'm hearing is you don't like people who hunt coyotes with dogs coyotes you only have permission to hunt.

[scott]

i am telling you, i have hunted with them.   the GPS collars is for tracking the coyote.   guy goes in with the dogs and jumps a coyote, radios to someone in a truck the which way they are going. guys in trucks move onto properties that they have permission to hunt and wait for the coyote.   if it changes directions again the radio sounds on which way it is going.  trucks start up and move to another property..   

gps, radio, truck.   illegal, illegal, illegal....

[Hern]

Scott, same ole complaint I've had in the 60's, 70's & 80's with trespassing hound dogs, Fox hounds and Coon hounds.
The 90's and nowadays, same problem with letting Coyote hounds run on posted property.
Over the decades, I've confronted many hound guys and talked with property owners.
Nothing has changed.
In face, I never changed anything around here, I just out lived the ole Fox & Coon hound guys. Now we have a new breed, Coyote hound guys. I can not see anything changing.  Just us (this post) bitch'n about it hasn't changed either...lol

[scott]

lol.   we are still allowed to bitch about it........  for the record I have never called the GC or State Police, this is just my complaint..   

[Hern]

I have.
Never worked.
Keep bitch'n...lol

[Bigcat]

Yeah. But most do it right. All I'm saying hound guys are hunters just the same as us. I was in a bar one night and was talking to a kid about calling. He goes on to tell me how awesome his night vision on his ar is. It doesn't make me or anyone else who calls bad people just him. Nothing against you Scott or anyone else who doesn't like hound guys it's just the way I see it and everyone is in titled to there opinion.

[dreamcatcher]

I told one of them a few years ago that our club had gotten No,4 buck legalized. He said "really' our crew been using it for over 20 years."

[uncle buck]

The Holundsmen meet with the PGC Regional directors every qtr in Harrisburg. They have clout!
In the bible sin is sin! If a person poaches that just as bad when people who break trespass laws are no better. You never see where a PGC undercover agent bust the houndsmen that break laws! Good for me my farms are to small for for this kind of hunting.

[jaspr1]

  They have clout!  You have that right UB  They almost got that bounty on coyotes passed  Costs money to feed ,house,vet bills and drive trucks around  and don't forget the electronics for them dogs  What better way to get a little support from your hunting partners, than have the PGC fund it  fortunately it hit a wave of opposition they didn't see coming and was killed  ...........I'm with you Scott and I have owned all types of sporting dogs in my life.................

[nortpete]

You can start your hound anywhere you have the right to be. Your dog may chase these coyotes across property lines. The hunter must ask the land owner to go on the property to get his dog or coyote. If the landowner says no then the hunter must call the game commission and an officer will escort him in to get the dog or coyote or both. I'll be honest with everyone complaining about guys running dogs, coon hunters do the same exact thing and no one complains about it because it's at night. a lot of coon hunters will dump their dogs where they don't have permission because they can hide in the dark. Also, if it wasn't for these guys using dogs the deer, turkey, and small game population would be in serious trouble. All of these new professional coyote hunters are educating dogs and callers will never be able to help control their populations.

[scott]

I am not sure that is entirely correct. I know a GC officer cant go on private land to look for a wounded deer.  Also I believe the GC has no authority over trespass laws.  They fall under police juristriction. And I can most certainly keep the predator population down without dog hunters. 

[Tom Stohler]

So why don't they set a dog hunting season. Just kinda like a trapping season. They have ther dog running season and everyone gets to hunt coyotes all year. Just a idea. The coon hunters have a season so should they

[scott]

Nobody is complaining about guys running dogs.  What I am complaining about are guys knowingly breaking laws and everyone turning a blind eye because it is a coyote.  Do it the right way and nobody will say anything.  Makes me wonder what questions are being asked at the MQ lie detector test. 

[nortpete]

I can tell you they don't all break laws so you should probably talk people specific instead of lumping all of them into one category. Every time this comes up it is against everyone who runs coyotes with hounds. I can tell you when I did it we talk to property owners and when we ask they are more than willing to let us in. We have had times were someone said no and the dogs had a coyote bayed on their property. The game warden escorted one of us in to get the dog out. You can't just leave dogs in the woods cornering an animal.

[scott]

We have 3 groups that run here and 1 that runs up by cabin.  They all use GPS and radios and trucks.  I can tell u stories from 2 of the groups that wouldn't believe but I won't put them on the internet.  I will say this u are correct if there are coyote hound guys out there doing it the right way good for you and my apologies.