I always loaded V-Max 40gr, but like I said, loaded them down, 11½gr lil-gun with a Fed sm pistol primer... I'm not sure loading the 17 down would be a good idea with the light bullets they use...
my biggest problem is you can only call at night in NC on private land, most of the good land is leased by the deer hunt clubs and they don't want you in there till after deer season is over... makes it difficult when you don't know anyone with land...