Foxhound
That can be close enought sometimes. But i would try also to get closer. If you can try and circle the area and see were they like to be from there tracks. You will learn a lot. Then go back with your new knolage on how to get in and set up. You can go back there any time and know the best spot. Hand call work but they are going to look right at you on there way in. Until you learn electronic calls can give you an edge.