2014 ground hog season

[Predator100x]

Ben,I use hoppes copper an lead solvent in all my guns,if gun is really fouled I will plug the barrel an fill it,let it soak for 10 minutes then run the brush threw er.you will be amazed what comes out,if I get a chance I will post a pic of one of my long range bangers.

[TrappinJohn]

I thought yo liked the .243. I personally dont see the point behind the wssm series. Seems like a waste of powder too me. But some like vanilla compared to chocolate.

All about horse power Ben 
About 200 fps for that couple grains of powder. 

I had this discussion with a guy over calibers once and he pointed something out to me. Using Hodgdon site for 58gr bullets ans IMR4895 powder

243 win
44.7 gr = 3817 fps ..... that is 85.4 fps per grain

243 wssm
46.2 gr = 4017 fps ..... that is 86.9 fps per grain

That means it's more efficient right?  Well, don't know about that, but it helped me convince myself I wanted needed one 

[bigben]

Id rather have a long high bc bullet over a fast light bullet. Jmo.

I thought about building a 6.5-06 but not sure if i want to give up on the 25-06

[TrappinJohn]

I think you should have both.

All I've shot in it so far are 70 gr and less.  Going to try some heavier stuff this summer for that same reason

Getting tougher to find fields to hunt around here any more.  Either not being farmed of too many houses now. 

[bigben]

Same issue here as well tj. Also seen my first roadkill ghog this afternoon.

[bigben]

And about having both. I have been wanting a wildcat. That isnt commercially available. The 6.5-06 is pretty much the same gun as the 284 version.  I also would only have to keep 6.5 caliber bullets as well. No need for the .257 bullets. We'll see how well i can get this 25-06 running first. Be bad to tear down a shooter

[Pa Goosehntr]

25-06 deer load;

         IMR 4350 49.0 gr
         Sierra SPBT 117 gr
         2900 fps

    I've had it pick up a doe and throw her down with a straight on shot!! mine is a Rem 700 BDL great caliber, and a great flat shooter...

[longhair]

I use this
http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/8-SSR-WOA510?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=organic&gclid=CP7ttrWz6rwCFc9lOgodKAYANw

That is what the gunsmith uses.

[longhair]

Yesterday "gert" was out on her dirt mound and the temp was @ 25. Upon a closer look she was insinuating that I was number 1. Walked a little closer and she ducked into the hole........only to stick her little fuzzy nugget out for peek. Upon further review with binos, it looked like she was grin'n at me. Seems a bullet is just too easy for this one. Might have to refer to the "acme" catalog for this one.

[TrappinJohn]

[shadowchaser]

what do you two use to clean your rifles?  I have been using sweets with a nylon bore brush till patch comes out clean then a shot or two of hopes no9 then dry patch.

Pretty much the same I do.  Sometimes I let it soak in the barrel for a little while.  There is a cheaper foam out that I have heard works well and isn't as corrosive like some of the stuff out there.

[longhair]

That oughta work. Wonder if it has the mower mount option ??

[bigben]

what do you two use to clean your rifles?  I have been using sweets with a nylon bore brush till patch comes out clean then a shot or two of hopes no9 then dry patch.

Pretty much the same I do.  Sometimes I let it soak in the barrel for a little while.  There is a cheaper foam out that I have heard works well and isn't as corrosive like some of the stuff out there.

I have tried the foam and even other copper removers.  if its not corrosive its hard to get the copper out.  my savage seems like it coppers up quick and if I don't use sweets it takes a lot longer to get the fouling out.  cheap is nice but plays heck to clean.  don't get me wrong either its accurate but after 30 shots I better clean it. 

[bigben]

seeing a lot more roadkill ground hogs.  Might go out Saturday afternoon and do a sit over one of my favorite fields to see if anything is out and about. 

[longhair]

No clean outs yet but did see tracks in the snow. Guess'n the males are ready....females maybe not. Talk'n about close to 50 degrees fri and sat. That ought have some of them poke'n their fuzzy nugget out for a peek.