yea im the one who shot the fox and yea the one ran 150 yards through deep snow and required another shot to bring it down it was on its last leg though but i couldnt believe how tough it was but yea for next year im definitely sticking with the 20 grainers hopefully itll put em down in a lot shorter of distance if it wasnt for the snow im not sure if we couldve found her she didnt bleed a whole lot