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Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« on: February 25, 2016, 04:09:07 PM »
As we all know that predators will always get in the direct line with the loudest part of the sound.. So it's a pretty good bet that if your hunting alone just make sure you watch that area of the sound wave.. Where the speaker is aimed. Not matter if it's up wind down wind or cross wind.. They will get in line with the loudest part of the sound be it electronics or mouth calling...

However coyotes will get in direct line of the sound but they use a military tactic... They will many times flank the sound from the side.. I don't know if this would be an attack mode thinking that they can get the jump on the critter crying or maybe a better sight without being seen.?????  However there you are calling upwind and maybe hear a howl down there. .That's them getting in line with the loudest part of the sound. .However all of a sudden your looking down the sound beam (electronics) or mouth calling and all of a sudden they are heading for the sound source from your side. Most times your completely off guard.. Remember now I'm talking about hunting at night here not in the daytime..  So when you do start to see this:  YOur busted now say to yourself as you walk back to your vehicle or retrieve your electronics "YOU NO GOOD FLANKER'
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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 04:31:17 PM »
UB, you are contradicting yourself.  Are they in direct line of the sound or flanking?  I'm cornfused? :o :o :o :o
"Predators are either active & feeding, semi-active & callable, or utterly inactive & then practically speaking, no call is needed; we're just taking our guns for a walk. We can & should get used to it, & follow their leed cuz they just ain't eager nor apt to follow our’s any time soon!

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 04:42:43 PM »
This pack will not even flank me. of course all the shooters were looking up wind and I was down wind of them.. roving back and forth calling so in a sense the coyotes did get to the side of me.. They came to me and not where the two shooters were posted.. of course when they got down wind all of us were kind of in direct line with them.. See some times I rove when I call.. I will walk back and forth and make the coyotes think the coyotes to that are calling are moving about too.. not in a drastic way kind of like on a trail back and forth maybe about 40 yards and then  40 yards the other way...  I no longer call down wind.. I call to the upwind side... I have been calling in everything now from the upwind side.. However like I said in this case.. The pack always goes down wind and bust us on this certain corner...This pack consist of a Old Alpha howl, a female howl and one howl in between.. I
m thinking it's about  3 in the pack. However it could be more..

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 04:43:29 PM »
The flanking tactic is in general every place I call not necessary with this pack of coyotes..

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 04:53:45 PM »
Your techniques are your techniques but pacing back and forth 40 yards seems crazy to me.  Did you ever try setting someone on the flanks or you sit on the flank and place the call upwind or crosswind 75 yards?
"Predators are either active & feeding, semi-active & callable, or utterly inactive & then practically speaking, no call is needed; we're just taking our guns for a walk. We can & should get used to it, & follow their leed cuz they just ain't eager nor apt to follow our’s any time soon!

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 05:53:41 PM »
I don't want to be moving and calling for Coyote, Coon or Fox.
UB, I know you own more e-callers than Cabela's have in stock.
Instead of you pacing around like a skittish Red Fox, take two remote e-callers along on your next hunt.
Place them 40 yards to each side of you. Of course you can use your mouth calls too. That way you can covered 80 yards of sound without moving.

Some of my successful Coyote hunts (kills) have been with 2-3 hunters. Many guys still hunt Coyote with a Fox Hunting mentality.
2 or 3 guys using calls at the same time or rotating intermittent times or  just Coyote talking to one another. This is one method I enjoy and keeps us all involved and alert. We are setup in likely spots away from one another. But we stay put and don't move. We don't yank their chains, we give them what they want to hear.
Next time you take someone or two along, give them a chance to call too. Don't run the whole show, but have a plan to get all involved. Discuss what sounds you want to use. Maybe this guy wants to howl, then you bark back at him. You may get a response quick. So your plan if you get a response is... or
You may both want to use distress calls rotating intermittently. That can get a fast response.
I think I killed (we killed) more Coyotes hunting with 2-3 guys then hunting alone. But then again, all guys used calls. I didn't take 'em out to stand and watch...lol. They do some work too.
A good example was years ago. PPHA members came to my house to do an early morning Crow Hunt.
Mid-morning, Crow hunting slowed so I ask if they want to go Calling Coyote. We had 5 in our group.
We had time for one stand before my wife had lunch prepared for us.
Tom (UB's brother) was on the e-call and I was using a mouth call. It wasn't too long I heard BANG! Tom shot a Grey Fox about 10:30am-11:00am. Dale saw it, but it was out of range.
Yea that was a Fox, but using two different calls and 5 people scattered about.
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This is one of my methods and may not work in your area.
There are locations that may only need a caller and shooter or just a caller and a guy next to him.

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2016, 06:58:41 PM »
Walking the dog works good for grey fox.  Reading the post just made me think of trying it for coyotes with pup distress. 

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 09:11:42 AM »
UB says-
However like I said in this case.. The pack always goes down wind and bust us on this certain corner.

ALWAYS?
Then that should be a slam dunk. They are showing you where to kill them!!
I think your previous sets up were wrong. (don't take this wrong way, just trying to help) Well, not wrong, but you leaned where they want killed. We must get out of the Fox Hunting mentality.
If they always go to the corner to flank you, why not change tactics? or Have you done this already?
I would place a watcher/shooter or two at the corner area where they ALWAYS go. I would have the caller somewhere else, maybe where your partners were on stand. Just swap positions. Kill them where they are showing you.
What I am getting at, If the responding Coyotes always swing down to the corner, then put someone there to shoot 'em. Just call and make sounds from another spot.
UB, you want to go it alone. But If you set on the corner and toot out sounds, the Coyotes may still skirt and flank you because the sounds are coming from the same spot or area.

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 08:35:58 PM »
Most times when I do go hunting myself that's when I get the predators... I do agree with you that I know that I have to get up in that corner when the wind is blowing toward the ICOtec call is being activated by me. Awesome machine that ICOtec GC 500.. It does work far away from where you post...Youtube shows it working  +300 yards away from the person activating the caller...I do want use the shotgun because I did see two of the coyotes come through the opening in the fence that I speak of in my post. The worse thing that could happen is that i'm in that corner with the shotgun and the coyotes end up by the electronic caller out of shotgun range.. I could take my Savage  24V 12/223 or carry a rifle on my back. 

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Re: Coyote.. The lone caller with a mouth call or speaker flanking
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 08:59:36 PM »
UB could you use a  similar setup E caller in same position...but have the shooter facing the crosswind?
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