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Offline bigben

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cat tricks?
« on: December 15, 2010, 10:15:53 AM »
What are you guys cat tricks?  I have been seeing this question being posted on a lot of places lately as to how to call a bobcat in.  I have called in 4 confirmed cats over the past 5 years.  one was down home here.  two were in the northcentral tier and the other in the north eastern tier.

Some things that have worked for me.  I scout.  I scout a lot.  I actually scouted more last year for a cat then I actually hunted for one.  While scouting I am looking for mainly tracks.  If I find one set of tracks I determine how fresh they are and depending on when it snowed last will determine my confidence in a spot.  if it has been a few days since last snow and only one set of tracks I don't get too worked up.  I like to find areas that have a few different size's of tracks and a lot of tracks.  This tells me that there are cats in the immediate area and are not just passing through.  The areas I find the most tracks seem to be old strip mines, thickets/over grown clearcuts, pine trees, and areas with swamps or water near by.  This is where knowledge of an area comes into play.  If I see a set of tracks I note the areas they are heading too and if I know there is one of the areas I mentioned above I go there and scout some more.  most of the times I find there core area there. 

Nighttime vs. daytime calling?  Out of the 4 cats I have called one was in the morning hours.  the other three were either right at dusk or a hour or so after dark.  I like calling night time more then anything for cats for a few reasons.  number one they have great camouflage.  In fact their camo is so good I have seen them disappear standing right on the road.  They are slow movers.  They don't normally run into a stand like a fox or coyote.  Their movements are methodical. It is very hard to pick up sometimes as well.  Night time though they give their position away as soon as they look at ya.  Their eyes look like pie plates when you hit them with the light.  With that said I believe they can be called any time of the day.  I think more of it has to do with making sure your in good area and your confidence level.  I have more confidence in the afternoon and in the early hours of the night.  So that is when I call. 

Sounds.  There are so many different sounds out there that you can use but you have your basics.  Rabbit, bird, and your bobcat sounds along with some other unorthodox sounds.  My stands start out normally with a bird sound.  wood pecker distress,  or any bird sound will work weather it is from a hand call or a E-call.  after a little bit of bird distress I normally start working through some rabbit sounds.  Then at the very last I normally use a bobcat in heat sound.  I have heard that GFP works as well on cats but haven't had it happen yet for me.  I still try it though every now and then though to try it.

Decoys are another thing that is brought up alot in the questions.  I have used a decoy every daytime stand for cats.  I have three decoys a jack in the box, a whirlin woodpecker, and a feather on a arrow shaft.  when I am hunting with a partner I normally carry the JIB.  when I am solo hunting I used the feather mainly cause it was easy to carry.  I believe that too much movement can be a problem though.  I have noticed with both daytime cats that as soon as they seen the decoy they stopped and watched.  This could be a problem as well as being helpful.  The problem arises when the shooter doesn't have a rifle and the cat stopped on the road out of shotgun range.  Other problems arise as well when they can see it through the brush but you can't see them.  Now a decoy can be helpful as well though because the cat is stationary.  Also the cats focus normally is on the decoy and not anywhere else.  But these animals have great eyesight as well.  So any body movements need to be slow.  Night time I do not use a decoy at all. 

Stand location.  I like to stick to old logging roads passing through the areas I mentioned above.  I like thick brushy area on both sides of the trail as well.  Both daytime cats came to the road and either sat down or watched.  both night time cats came to the road and watched as well.  for daytime stands I like to sit on a stool or a turkey hunters seat.  This gets me up off the ground for better visibility as well and making me more comfortable.  I like to get settled in and comfortable before calling.  if you cannot sit still for a honest thirty minutes then re evaluate your gear.  buy a foam pad do whatever you need to do to keep from moving.  The more you move the less chance you have at seeing a cat before he sees you.  a good set of sticks keeps your gun at the ready weather it be a rifle or a shotgun.  Wear face masks and gloves as well during the daytime.  At night I stand.  it is easier to move around and scan.  it is also more comfortable then kneeling or sitting in the snow for me at least.  The amount of time on stand for me is right at 30 minutes.  sometimes longer depending on the location and confidence I have in the spot.  The distance between stands also depends on how big an area the cats are hanging in.  but most of the time it is no more then 300 yds with the average distance moved around 200 yds each time. 

guns.  It's a personal decision.  I use a .223 scoped rifle shooting a 55gr PSP.  I have heard of people shooting cats with .17hmrs as well.  I would rather have the cat dead then have to trail it.  A predator leaves very little blood to trail and without snow it could be a problem to follow the animal.  Some use a shotgun for cats because they will be calling thick brushy area.  Loads can range from a dead coyote shot shell down to #2 turkey loads.  I use buckshot in a shotgun when I carry one.  But like I put above I prefer a rifle.  Cats do not normally come in and then vanish quickly.  They walk a few steps sit down and look then take a few more steps.  A shotgun has a range of 40yds depending on your load.  You are also putting it to chance as well that the BB's will hit the right mark.  With a rifle you can place your shot in the right spot for a clean kill.  But a rifle cannot shoot through brush.  Where a shotgun can.  This is where a combo gun can come in handy for you.  It comes down to personal preference and what you can shoot well. 

I hope others join in here and post their findings and thoughts.  This is only what has worked for me and take it FWIW.  There are many ways to skin a cat per se.  The above is what works for me. 
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Re: cat tricks?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 11:20:58 AM »
Never had any luck with cats myself but hopefullly ill be able to put my own game plan together after reading what a few guys do on here. Been doin some scouting around the house found a few tracks and some scat back in archery and got a trail cam pic of a nice cat so my hopes are high id love to get a bobcat

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Re: cat tricks?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 04:29:57 PM »
Ben what does your sequence sound like?  Is it more constant or is it a couple a couple wait a couple? 

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 04:59:07 PM »
I called one cat in by accident once...and called one in the first time I tried to actually call a cat in. 

I used a powerdogg and an edge rabbit decoy the last hour before dark.  Cat sightings, trail pics, and tracks were high in this area.  I called with cottontail distress...low, low  volume for about 10 seconds.  Then played for about 30 seconds or so.  Within 4 or 5 minutes the cat was there.  I didt have a tag, but I do this year so I hope to duplicate this this year.l

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 07:45:53 PM »
Calling for 25 years now I have only called in two bobcat in Pa...They were in farm country of South Central Pa..I was using the rabbit distress electronic both times. The sound was the JS Baby Cottontail...


Now I had conversations with Randy Anderson when he was doing the PPHA seminar at Port Matilda in 2006. He told a few of us first off the cats are dumb... That scent is not much of a factor when they come to the call but their eye sight is excellent..So you best be camo'd.
So that is the reason they just sit and stair at the sound source..Might be a good reason to use a decoy so they hone in on the feather or JIB or what ever you have the moves.. Anderson  said to stay long on stand...45 minutes and just let the sound rip constant.

When the cats came to my electronic rabbit distress sounds it was night um about 10:00 PM...Their eyes look about the size of a $.50 cent piece.. Larger then all other predators...I was using the Nitelite red pop cover on my head light..Even with the red pop cover the large eyes were white like diamonds..
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Re: cat tricks?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 09:40:50 PM »
I have called in a few bobcats. What Ben posted is correct, what he said will get it done most of the time.
The real problem is if you do not have cats close to were you live you better have friends to help ya out. I hunted every week end from the beginning of the season to the end of the season for cats one year. I learned finding cat area takes a lot of time. I rely on my friends when ever possible, believe me it can take a ton of time finding good spots so anything to shorten scouting time is a real god send. It takes a wile for most people to find the correct habitat, and most people are new at this and it takes time to learn it, some may never learn it. But if you are interested and work hard you will learn to find it. Most of the areas I have seen cats in is the real thick stuff that offers tight cover even in the dead of winter. If you can walk through it easily in January it is probably not thick enough to have a high population of cats. Most everybody can find a cat track here or there but to call one it helps to have as many cats in one area as possible to up your odds to be successful most of the time. But the bad part is you still need to call the spots were you seen even one cat track. If a person lives were there are a good number of cats he can hit these spots when the weather is right and up his odds. For most of us we have to go when we can and that is why the more cats in one area the better. As far as cat sounds, well the high pitched bird and rabbit sounds seam the best but nothing can be ruled out. I like to use electronic sounds at 1/2 to 3/4 volume along with my had calls played loud on and off to make it more exciting sounding, and the lip squeak seams to help close the deal even wile the call is playing. This short season is going to make it rough,so start hard at it and end hard at if you want a cat. The guys that have them already lined up and time to go good luck.
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Re: cat tricks?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 06:33:09 AM »
Ben what does your sequence sound like?  Is it more constant or is it a couple a couple wait a couple? 

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 05:12:00 AM »
Ben, good infomation.

If anyone hits a cat and can't find it. Get a hound dog to trail it for you. Years ago, our beagles would track a Fox or cat.

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 08:20:18 AM »
Yes good tips ben ,, i called few in over the years all in the early morning day break ,, One thing i did this year was asked around deer hunters and got few leads on some new spots , I got to scout one spot out found some tracks. 

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 07:56:38 AM »
Here are some cat tracks I found this weekend.

These tracks were about 2" in diam. 


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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 09:24:08 AM »
Ben, good infomation.

If anyone hits a cat and can't find it. Get a hound dog to trail it for you. Years ago, our beagles would track a Fox or cat.
I would take my beagle out hunting and I would spend more time hunting for her but she would always find this extremely stinky stuff and roll in it. Is there a certain feces that beagle roll in?
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 12:16:17 PM »
     "Is there a certain feces that beagle roll in?"

   Yea, the worst smelling they will roll in...at least mine does!! she hasn't be particular to a specific one... :-[
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 05:35:44 PM »
I think any hunting dog like this kind of stuff.  Namely because they get to venture out in the outdoors.  See it's not only the bear that _______ in the woods...Both 4 and 2 legged mammals also.     Often wondered why when they roll back and forth back and forth and again back in forth with their back facing into it.. Why do they have that smile on their face? No matter if it's a beagle, lab, Britt...They all smile like heck while they roll back and forth??????? If they could talk I know they would say "Oh That Feels So Good!"
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